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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://antennasoft.net/robcee/2009/12/15/firebug-and-the-jit/comment-page-1/#comment-91773</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 22:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was under the impression in Firefox 3.6 and Firebug 1.5 this issue was fixed.
However with the Firebug console and script panel enabled I&#039;m getting over 40ms
on http://people.mozilla.com/~vladimir/ss/hosted/bitops-bitwise-and.html,
but with disabled I&#039;m getting less than 5ms.

Firefox 3.6.4
Firebug 1.5.4

Can you offer any insight?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was under the impression in Firefox 3.6 and Firebug 1.5 this issue was fixed.<br />
However with the Firebug console and script panel enabled I&#8217;m getting over 40ms<br />
on <a href="http://people.mozilla.com/~vladimir/ss/hosted/bitops-bitwise-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://people.mozilla.com/~vladimir/ss/hosted/bitops-bitwise-and.html</a>,<br />
but with disabled I&#8217;m getting less than 5ms.</p>
<p>Firefox 3.6.4<br />
Firebug 1.5.4</p>
<p>Can you offer any insight?</p>
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		<title>By: Firefox+Firebug: Slowdown Explained? &#124; K-Squared Ramblings</title>
		<link>http://antennasoft.net/robcee/2009/12/15/firebug-and-the-jit/comment-page-1/#comment-89057</link>
		<dc:creator>Firefox+Firebug: Slowdown Explained? &#124; K-Squared Ramblings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 07:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Firebug slows down JavaScript even if it&#8217;s not active on the current page. That explains a LOT! # Facebook &amp; Gmail run [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Firebug slows down JavaScript even if it&#8217;s not active on the current page. That explains a LOT! # Facebook &amp; Gmail run [...]</p>
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		<title>By: robcee</title>
		<link>http://antennasoft.net/robcee/2009/12/15/firebug-and-the-jit/comment-page-1/#comment-89052</link>
		<dc:creator>robcee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for pointing us to this. It&#039;s currently fixed on trunk and I was seeing times of 250ms (compared to 7200ms) on my machine.

I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535436 to track the regression. Hopefully we&#039;ll get this into 3.6 before ship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for pointing us to this. It&#8217;s currently fixed on trunk and I was seeing times of 250ms (compared to 7200ms) on my machine.</p>
<p>I filed <a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535436" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=535436</a> to track the regression. Hopefully we&#8217;ll get this into 3.6 before ship.</p>
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		<title>By: schnalle</title>
		<link>http://antennasoft.net/robcee/2009/12/15/firebug-and-the-jit/comment-page-1/#comment-89050</link>
		<dc:creator>schnalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um, actually i implemented it today (it&#039;s a dirty hack). not a real benchmark. 

i added the numbers from my system; seems i made a mistake in me previous post. deactivating FF does speed things up, from ~3.1s to ~2.4s. still i wonder: why is the difference tracemonkeys tracing JIT makes so small?

heres the demo:
http://jsastar.tapirpirates.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um, actually i implemented it today (it&#8217;s a dirty hack). not a real benchmark. </p>
<p>i added the numbers from my system; seems i made a mistake in me previous post. deactivating FF does speed things up, from ~3.1s to ~2.4s. still i wonder: why is the difference tracemonkeys tracing JIT makes so small?</p>
<p>heres the demo:<br />
<a href="http://jsastar.tapirpirates.net/" rel="nofollow">http://jsastar.tapirpirates.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: robcee</title>
		<link>http://antennasoft.net/robcee/2009/12/15/firebug-and-the-jit/comment-page-1/#comment-89049</link>
		<dc:creator>robcee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@schnalle: Would you consider posting a link to your benchmark? I know some people who might like to take a look at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@schnalle: Would you consider posting a link to your benchmark? I know some people who might like to take a look at it.</p>
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		<title>By: schnalle</title>
		<link>http://antennasoft.net/robcee/2009/12/15/firebug-and-the-jit/comment-page-1/#comment-89047</link>
		<dc:creator>schnalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>recently i implemented an a* search (just for fun). benchmarks made me cry - google chrome is almost 10 times as fast as firefox 3.5.5 (naive benchmarking across a 200x200 matrix, ff takes ~3sec, chrome ~250ms).

and i thought ffs tracing jit would shine here, because it&#039;s nothing more than some tight loops.

when i read your article, the problem was clear. so i completely deactivated the firebug addon (just to be sure), restarted the browser and ... no noticeable difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>recently i implemented an a* search (just for fun). benchmarks made me cry &#8211; google chrome is almost 10 times as fast as firefox 3.5.5 (naive benchmarking across a 200&#215;200 matrix, ff takes ~3sec, chrome ~250ms).</p>
<p>and i thought ffs tracing jit would shine here, because it&#8217;s nothing more than some tight loops.</p>
<p>when i read your article, the problem was clear. so i completely deactivated the firebug addon (just to be sure), restarted the browser and &#8230; no noticeable difference.</p>
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		<title>By: robcee</title>
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		<dc:creator>robcee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the correction, Dao. Updated the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the correction, Dao. Updated the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Dao</title>
		<link>http://antennasoft.net/robcee/2009/12/15/firebug-and-the-jit/comment-page-1/#comment-89042</link>
		<dc:creator>Dao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 18:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It provides a major speedup for code running in Firefox 3.0 and up, often an order of magnitude for certain types of operations.&quot;

Not in 3.0, 3.5 was the first release featuring TraceMonkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It provides a major speedup for code running in Firefox 3.0 and up, often an order of magnitude for certain types of operations.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not in 3.0, 3.5 was the first release featuring TraceMonkey.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathis Fenne</title>
		<link>http://antennasoft.net/robcee/2009/12/15/firebug-and-the-jit/comment-page-1/#comment-89039</link>
		<dc:creator>Mathis Fenne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 12:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey. This is good news. We use firebug a lot when creating front-end solutions for our customers, and we have had some issues with performance :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey. This is good news. We use firebug a lot when creating front-end solutions for our customers, and we have had some issues with performance <img src='http://antennasoft.net/robcee/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Navneet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Navneet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 06:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am using Firebug 1.3.3 for the same reason.
Firebug 1.4.x causes drastic slowness when the net panel is enabled</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am using Firebug 1.3.3 for the same reason.<br />
Firebug 1.4.x causes drastic slowness when the net panel is enabled</p>
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